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    Posted: 25 Jun 2019 at 2:59pm
Out of curiosity anyone have an idea how those round saddle bibs are made?

Think they are on the commercial scatter rapala lures, I just know that the Finnish lure makers have been using these for years.
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hmmmm...... don't know the bibs of which you speak.(said in my head in a Gandalf accent)

Got any photos or example of lures they are on (said in my head in a very bad English cockney accent)

and no, I am not off my meds, just in a weird mood   ..... maybe I should be on medsConfusedLOL
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Hi Charles, Do you mean the "not concave" bibs ? (Convex??) Pete Rayner, tag hazmail on here has produced some on his lure models if my memory, shaky, serves me well. Cheers Richard
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Originally posted by horrorhead horrorhead wrote:

hmmmm...... don't know the bibs of which you speak.(said in my head in a Gandalf accent)

Got any photos or example of lures they are on (said in my head in a very bad English cockney accent)

and no, I am not off my meds, just in a weird mood   ..... maybe I should be on medsConfusedLOL

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Martin you worry me some times....haha. Then again as a Hunter S. Thompson enthusiast you take strange as a norm that sets the world in balance. The gandolf voice is fine, only start to worry if you speak like Danny from the shining.

I see, yes, they are concave. Perhaps heating them with a former. Think I've come across Pete's post, hes a true tinkerer.

Wanted to learn a bit about them, curious of their history and the ins and outs of their application. Seems tough to find information on them, which is a bit strange considering they are common in Finland?
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Hey Charles-
Per or "p.j'' (on this site) will know all about it-- OR try ''Piatu'' another member

http://www.lurelovers.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=619

I have some granules here and have used it a a lacquer, you can also make it by dissolving plastic reading glass lenses, very tough stuff, also used in chisel handles and sun/ reading glass frames.
They have been using it for years in ''Scandinavia'' I suspect it is one of the early plastics made after the war (2nd world war) Approve Seems it was molded to shape for bibs (lips).

If you go here :::   http://www.lurelovers.com/forum/finnish-lures_topic24979.html
The first picture is a lure with a ''saddle bib'', "p.j'' and  ''Piatu''  are also on this page so you can click and send them a ''PM''.
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I'll give him a shout, much appreciated. Might get lucky and he will chime in.

Yes, the lure in that picture is sporting the saddle lip.

So granules are melted into the shape or is it the former, I'm a bit lost?

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I got some off these bibs from Paitu some years ago. 
Have never used them, but seen a lot off Lures from finland made with them. 
Think thy can be bought in Lure part stores "over" there
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Rapala Scatter Rap. One of favourite lures. The bib gives it a "randomn" swimming action.
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OH yeah Shane, ''Hunting'', the holy grail of lure making.
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Thanks Per
Been wanting to give these a try and experiment a bit with different actions. Also wanted to know a bit on the history of these, I find things like that fascinating.

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not sure why lures that hunt are the holy grail? I've made a few, although they look great zig zagging through the water they don't catch more fish than a regular crankbait. That's been my experience.
As for consistently making hunting lures, try red oak with no ballast. for some reason it gives an unpredictable balance to lures causing them to track and dart suddenly.
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Martin you worry me some times....haha. Then again as a Hunter S. Thompson enthusiast you take strange as a norm that sets the world in balance. The gandolf voice is fine, only start to worry if you speak like Danny from the shining.

LOLLOLLOL I worry me too Wacko, but then again I wouldn't be normal if I wasn't abnormal.

Now I know the bibs you are talking aboutThumbs Up
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